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here to break it down, fox news contributor, former senior advisor to president george w. bush karl rove. thank you so much for coming back on the show, carl. >> you bet. thank you for having me. melissa: the big question, does it all translate into votes? what do you think? >> typically a strong debate performance in the first debate does translate into a an improvement in the numbers for a particularly for a challenger. how big a an improvement depends upon the arc of the entire debate series. we won't know exactly until the final debate. if you look at it in seven out of the last nine presidential debates series, the challenger party has benefited, the incumbent party benefited in two of nine. how big the advantage gets to be depends upon the arc of the entire debate performance but the first sets tone. i think the tone was set quite well by governor romney last night in his campaign. melissa: what do you think he has to do in the second debate? has he now raised the bar so high? people that support him are so jazzed how he did but does you have to come out blazing agai
here to break it down, fox news contributor, former senior advisor to president george w. bush karl rove. thank you so much for coming back on the show, carl. >> you bet. thank you for having me. melissa: the big question, does it all translate into votes? what do you think? >> typically a strong debate performance in the first debate does translate into a an improvement in the numbers for a particularly for a challenger. how big a an improvement depends upon the arc of the entire...
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i have not talked to him there is no one more gracious than president george w. bush except maybe his dad. >>neil: does this gal epaize the base in they think it is winnable, and karl rove says the numbers could be closer than we think. others say, neil, it is a big, big road to climb? >>guest: if it went the other way the conversation we would be having would be different talking about how do you salvage a campaign that is in complete ruin. now you talk about how to capitalize on a good night, some call it a great night, and go on from this. if you think of how it could have been completely different story, romney is thing they did a great job. juan williams is the only person in america who thinks obama won the debate least night. >>neil: he things obama won? >>guest: he said that this morning. even obama campaign thinks they didn't win. i don't know if he will continue on this baghdad bob endorsement. you have to watch that. >>neil: thank you. the eyes have it. long, long before others scovered mitt romney the feared c.e.o. we spotted it. it wasn't something h
i have not talked to him there is no one more gracious than president george w. bush except maybe his dad. >>neil: does this gal epaize the base in they think it is winnable, and karl rove says the numbers could be closer than we think. others say, neil, it is a big, big road to climb? >>guest: if it went the other way the conversation we would be having would be different talking about how do you salvage a campaign that is in complete ruin. now you talk about how to capitalize on a...
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one of the thinks we remember is the way al exwoar crowded george w. bush and gave him the look or the way someone sighed, the way the two relate standing next to each other. did you get anything watching that? >> i'm not sure there will be a moment easy to repeat over and over again in the next several days, television shows. i do think romney looked aggressive, maybe a little over-aggressive, a bulldozer, kept going, kept going. i thought if maybe there was a slight advantage, at certain times the president looked a little peefd, a little stiff, maybe, but i wouldn't say there was a big difference between the two. >> woodruff: how did you see it? >> i thought romney didn't know when to take the foot off the pedal a couple of times. he just kept going. >> woodruff: he wanted to have the last word. >> he did want to have the last word. i thought he looked more comfortable. and i thought he seemed more comfortable, and i think the president didn't seem nearly as happy to be there as did mitt romney. >> woodruff: did-- when all is said and done, are the
one of the thinks we remember is the way al exwoar crowded george w. bush and gave him the look or the way someone sighed, the way the two relate standing next to each other. did you get anything watching that? >> i'm not sure there will be a moment easy to repeat over and over again in the next several days, television shows. i do think romney looked aggressive, maybe a little over-aggressive, a bulldozer, kept going, kept going. i thought if maybe there was a slight advantage, at...
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george w. bush, ronald reagan in '84, george h.w. bush in '92, the president didn't seem to be on his game. mitt romney made a surprise appearance to a cpac event in denver still courting the conservatives but say if you know people that voted for president obama, tell them to come on over to our side. that's ironic because i don't imagine he knows many conservative republicans who voted for president obama the last time or plan to this time. nevertheless, you're no fan of governor romney. did you become a fan last night as a conservative who has doubted his credibility from the minute he entered this race? >> well, i think my credentials as a non-romney show are pretty well secured. i have good street cred for your audience. frankly, i thought mitt romney did the best job of advancing even a modicom of viewpoints and stepping up on a national stage than like when al gore invented the internet. mitt romney, unlike john mccain, mitt romney wants to win the presidency, and a lot of conservatives have asked themselves that question the
george w. bush, ronald reagan in '84, george h.w. bush in '92, the president didn't seem to be on his game. mitt romney made a surprise appearance to a cpac event in denver still courting the conservatives but say if you know people that voted for president obama, tell them to come on over to our side. that's ironic because i don't imagine he knows many conservative republicans who voted for president obama the last time or plan to this time. nevertheless, you're no fan of governor romney. did...
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george w. bush did terrible. jimmy carter did terrible. george h.w. bush did terrible. presidents don't get pushed around when they're president in the white house. nobody stands up whether john kerry or anybody else push him around. i don't think he was on. he couldn't defend his own programs. he thought it was beneath him and that attitude came in through all the way. no question mitt romney knew the ballgame was yesterday. he was looking forward to make his case. debated extremely well 20 some odd debates when republican primariry. he is much stronger debater than four years ago. my sense he will be a strong debate all the way through. megyn: michael, i want to ask if romney did sufficient job connecting with american people that he needed to do? so question he did on sparring on points but did he connect? there were a couple moments he tried to or maybe he did. i want to get your take. first commenting on barack obama acknowledged it was his wedding anniversary last night. listen here. >> congratulations, to you, mr. president on your anniversary. i'm sure this was
george w. bush did terrible. jimmy carter did terrible. george h.w. bush did terrible. presidents don't get pushed around when they're president in the white house. nobody stands up whether john kerry or anybody else push him around. i don't think he was on. he couldn't defend his own programs. he thought it was beneath him and that attitude came in through all the way. no question mitt romney knew the ballgame was yesterday. he was looking forward to make his case. debated extremely well 20...
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george w. bush in 2000 the al gore among white voters 55-43. the margin was the same so how did gore and bush essentially tied. you might not know this but was won that election. [laughter] in the electoral college, kind of the cool thing in the constitution. but anyhow, so it years later what was essentially a popular vote tie becomes a seven-point blowout in that shows you how significantly america is changing. you know, fred talked about how hard it is for democrat a democrat to win with a seven-point margin. republicans can't. it's just impossible. for mitt romney to win the popular vote is going to be by a point or two. what that says is you know, if we don't as a party, republicans don't figure out how to do much better with minority voters particularly latinos -- look, african-americans is going to be hard to expect more than 5%f the vote for a while given that the current president is lack. so they are going to vote for him and his party. that is certainly understandable. republicans have to do significantly better than we are doing rig
george w. bush in 2000 the al gore among white voters 55-43. the margin was the same so how did gore and bush essentially tied. you might not know this but was won that election. [laughter] in the electoral college, kind of the cool thing in the constitution. but anyhow, so it years later what was essentially a popular vote tie becomes a seven-point blowout in that shows you how significantly america is changing. you know, fred talked about how hard it is for democrat a democrat to win with a...
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i remember president bush, george w. bush, was quoted -- used to be quoted as saying, you know, people will be out in the oval office waiting room and they'll say i'm going to go in and tell the president, great texas phrase, what all, and they get in and they say oh, what a lovely tie, mr. president. and i think that's a big part of this. and i think that that's one of the reasons what happened in '04. i think it's probably what happened last night. and one thing we do know, we know that governor romney is a hugely competitive guy. but arguably the only person around more competitive is barack obama. and so there's, you know, this is 30 days out. i would think this would be a much bigger deal in terms of the tactical horse race if this were like 1980. if this debate had been on october 28th, i think this would be a much more -- have much more possibility of being truly transformative. i think it's hugely important, but, again, mark twain is dead. >> all right. thank you for that. let's go to "the wall street journal." "
i remember president bush, george w. bush, was quoted -- used to be quoted as saying, you know, people will be out in the oval office waiting room and they'll say i'm going to go in and tell the president, great texas phrase, what all, and they get in and they say oh, what a lovely tie, mr. president. and i think that's a big part of this. and i think that that's one of the reasons what happened in '04. i think it's probably what happened last night. and one thing we do know, we know that...
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there have been strong debates, john kerry had a strong debate against george w. bush in 2004. but he wasn't able to translate that into lasting benefit. that's the best of the next three weeks, to see whether romney can keep it going or whether president obama comes out with a higher level of aggression, higher level of energy in the next debate and stop the momentum that romney accumulated last night. >> okay. yeah, i had so many different thoughts, john, as we watched the whole thing. i remember that a lot of republicans were supporting newt gingrich because just for this moment, they wanted -- they thought newt was such a great debater, they wanted to see someone like newt talk to president obama about his policies and about the last four years. and they thought newt would have been the guy to do it. and i don't think that the republicans now feel like they lost a step by having romney there. and in watching, i've tried to sometimes espouse free market principles, private sector language about how to approach certain things. and i got to tell you, there were a couple times
there have been strong debates, john kerry had a strong debate against george w. bush in 2004. but he wasn't able to translate that into lasting benefit. that's the best of the next three weeks, to see whether romney can keep it going or whether president obama comes out with a higher level of aggression, higher level of energy in the next debate and stop the momentum that romney accumulated last night. >> okay. yeah, i had so many different thoughts, john, as we watched the whole thing....
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. >> the debate in 2004 between john kerry and george w. bush i, i literally forgot whether or not-- uh-oh, is this a new question or is this a follow-up question? my mind just went blank. and i had to make a decision. and i just guessed right. >> brown: the book highlights so-called major moments in debate history, the ones that come to define an dispnt sometimes ape candidate. george h.w. bush looking at his watch in 1992. >>Ñi thereçóñr guagain. >> brown: those zingers from ronald reagan that wounded jimmy cartener 1980. in the documentary "debating our destiny" jim went back to talk to candidates about their experience of the debates and had the chance to ask whether they prepared famous lines ahead of time. >> lehrer: i asked ronald reagan about, "there you go again," and a couple of others. "no, no, it just came to me." >> no it just seemed to be the thing to say and what he was saying up there. >> brown: did you believe him? >> lehrer: i don't know if i did or i didn't. i found it interesting that nobody wants to admit. >> brown:
. >> the debate in 2004 between john kerry and george w. bush i, i literally forgot whether or not-- uh-oh, is this a new question or is this a follow-up question? my mind just went blank. and i had to make a decision. and i just guessed right. >> brown: the book highlights so-called major moments in debate history, the ones that come to define an dispnt sometimes ape candidate. george h.w. bush looking at his watch in 1992. >>Ñi thereçóñr guagain. >> brown: those...
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most previous individual given, george soros $24 million in 2004 against george w. bush. >> he wasn't done yet. that is what i took away from your story. >> no, absolutely. >> if it will make a difference he will get. >> we've been able to study the obama campaign, the operation for, you know, five, five 1/2 years sort of in campaign mode and governing mode. how do they react to moment like this? they obviously don't panic but they do what? how do they take a bad thing and neutralize it and ultimately a good thing. how? >> the president has an expression. talks about our time in the barrel. and he's been the underdog enough times. he has gone through enough times. that, they're smart and they know our time in the barrel is going to come and this now is their time. they're in the barrel and they're going to spend a couple of days trying to convince people that he has game. and, two weeks from now, the debate at hofstra, in new york, he will get to show but, i thought that was a very smart point you made about the sort of soft interviews. i bet we'll see him out doing
most previous individual given, george soros $24 million in 2004 against george w. bush. >> he wasn't done yet. that is what i took away from your story. >> no, absolutely. >> if it will make a difference he will get. >> we've been able to study the obama campaign, the operation for, you know, five, five 1/2 years sort of in campaign mode and governing mode. how do they react to moment like this? they obviously don't panic but they do what? how do they take a bad thing...
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w. i think we've got to invest in education and training. i think it's important for us to develop new sources of energy here in america. that we change our tax code to make sure we're helping small businesses and companies that are investing here in the united states. that we take some of the money that we're saving as we wind down two wars to rebuild america. and that we reduce our deficit in a balanced way that allows us to make these critical investments. now, it ultimately is going to be up to the voters, to you which path we should take. are we going to double down on the top-down economic policies that helped to get us into this mess or do we embrace a new economic patriotism that says america does best when the middle-class does best? and i'm looking forward to having that debate. >> lehrer: governor romney two minutes. >> thank you jim it's an honor to be here with you and i appreciate the chance to be with the president. i'm pleased to be at the university of denver, appreciate
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george bush, in fact, george w. bush started the bailout with the initial loans. then we had to transition to obama and he continued it. and i think the only unfortunate thing that mitt romney has to live down is that november 8th new york times op-ed piece where he essentially advocated the bankruptcy of the american automobile companies. and it sort of -- he has the reputation of having been willing to sacrifice the automobile business. i don't think that's true. if he had been president, he would have done the same thing that obama did. but this is one he's going to have to explain, i think. >> he asked the romney campaign about that, they said gm didn't actually go through bankruptcy not the one we're talking about. bill clinton today in ohio tried to explain why the race is not as tight as it should be. he says it's largely about the auto industry. does romney walk that op-ed back today? >> you know, i don't know. i just think that mitt romney needs to come out -- needs to do what -- needs to state what he really believes in. which is the importance of americ
george bush, in fact, george w. bush started the bailout with the initial loans. then we had to transition to obama and he continued it. and i think the only unfortunate thing that mitt romney has to live down is that november 8th new york times op-ed piece where he essentially advocated the bankruptcy of the american automobile companies. and it sort of -- he has the reputation of having been willing to sacrifice the automobile business. i don't think that's true. if he had been president, he...
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. >> it was gotten wrong in a debate with george w. bush in 2000. you can see gore advancing threatening toward the bush who would later win the presidency after a battle over vote counting. i cannot imagine anything like that happening tonight. in fact, the opposite. these are very cool customers. how should they loosened up without making that mistake? >> al gore had the unfortunate personality -- he resembled a tin woodman when he was in front of the camera. i cannot believe that his approaching president bush was as big a deal as some would think that it was. but, he did it at the wrong time. >> right. very very briefly. these are two of the most televised men in the world. will we learn anything new about them? >> tonight's candidates, i think that we will. the way that they behave, the way they present themselves will make a significant difference. >> i will have to stop you there. thank you very much indeed for joining me. that brings us to the end of the show. thank you very much for watching. we will see you back here tomorrow. >> make sens
. >> it was gotten wrong in a debate with george w. bush in 2000. you can see gore advancing threatening toward the bush who would later win the presidency after a battle over vote counting. i cannot imagine anything like that happening tonight. in fact, the opposite. these are very cool customers. how should they loosened up without making that mistake? >> al gore had the unfortunate personality -- he resembled a tin woodman when he was in front of the camera. i cannot believe that...
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george w. bush and al gore in 2000. >> by agreement, between the candidates, the first question goes to the governor. you have two minutes to respond. kitty was raped and murdered, would you favor an irrevocable death penalty for the killer? no, i do not. i think you know i have not favored the death penalty my entire life. it is one of the reasons we have the biggest drop in crime in any industrial state of america and the lowest murder rates. we have work to do in this nation. we of work to do to fight a real war, not a phoney war against drugs. that is something i want to leave it. -- to lead. even though the vice president has been at least allegedly in charge of the war. we of work to do to double that effort. to fight here and abroad, to work with neighbors in this hemisphere. i want to call a summit just as soon after the 20th of january to fight the war, but we also have to do with drug education prevention here at home. that is one of the things i hope i could lead personally as presid
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george w. bush had very struggling numbers. not so strong, decent third quarter, decent third quarter helped president bush heading into his re-election campaign. look how weak growth has been in this election year in the obama presidency? well below even what it was in 2004 for george w. bush and the second quarter drops more. very anemic growth. we don't know the third quarter numbers. we'll get those before the election. president obama we know he's trying to do something no one's done with fdr, win with the unemployment rate above 7.2%. look at gdp numbers to win, it would be a bit of history. >> certainly would be. john, thanks very much. we're going to have much more coverage, full coverage of tonight's debate president obama and governor romney face-to-face as american voters weigh their choice. the first presidential debate takes place tonight. you can watch it live. our coverage begins 7:00 p.m. eastern right here on cnn and on cnn.com. >>> a fiery speech by then-senator barack obama sets off some media fireworks five
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george h. w. bush in '92. all of these guys who had been in the presidency, they got on that debate stage and came face- to-face with the challenger. it is rattling. they all had a very difficult time getting through the first debate. in each case, they had to up their game as the series went forward. >> you say, "the morning after >> you say, "the morning after the debate, will the media the
george h. w. bush in '92. all of these guys who had been in the presidency, they got on that debate stage and came face- to-face with the challenger. it is rattling. they all had a very difficult time getting through the first debate. in each case, they had to up their game as the series went forward. >> you say, "the morning after >> you say, "the morning after the debate, will the media the
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w. lori: you were already harassing her. melissa: it will be great. lori: you have to stick with us this hour. let's get you updated on the market as we do every 15 minutes. we have our own nicole petallides at the new york stock exchange. nicole: looking pretty good here. holding onto some gains. a lot of of arrows. it is not always that use the all the arrows on the upside for the major industries. the dow jones industrial 13,522 right now. i want to take a look at metro pcs. yesterday, it was a lie on the rumor. we started to speculate that there was going to be a deal. it was up 20 something percent. here it is today. selling off now on the news. down about 9%. virtually flat at the moment. with this move, both companies did approve the deal. metro pcs approving a stock split. obviously, getting back a lot of yesterday's game. back to you. lori: thank you, nicole. ♪ melissa: breaking news. energy complex selling off. u.s. and europe down big in trading today. let's get right to the
w. lori: you were already harassing her. melissa: it will be great. lori: you have to stick with us this hour. let's get you updated on the market as we do every 15 minutes. we have our own nicole petallides at the new york stock exchange. nicole: looking pretty good here. holding onto some gains. a lot of of arrows. it is not always that use the all the arrows on the upside for the major industries. the dow jones industrial 13,522 right now. i want to take a look at metro pcs. yesterday, it...
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even "the new york times" rights of the this continuity between obama and george w. bush for that matter. so, any president in my view only changes things 10 degrees one way, 10 degrees the other. there will be some issues. obviously, you know, there's no question that romney takes a different view on how to deal with russia and you probably see a different policy towards russia. on iran is a harder call and one thing we have not spoken about, and i think maybe you were going to get to it eventually -- >> we are only 25 minutes in. >> okay. since i considered it to be not a and unreasonable possibility regardless of who was in the white house that the united states might end up with the desire because it has no choice engaging in the military action in iran, what is that going to do to all of the consensus about spending about whether the american people are registered in foreign policy and even the issues like the defense budget, and that's why it's issues like that and the ones the we don't even know about that make me weary of all of these street line projections
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he doesn't come from a border state like john mccain or george w. bush did. he has not done a great intense voter outreach with the latinos because he ran out of money after the primary. he -- let me just be absolutely truthful and give smu straight talk as john mccain would say. mitt romney dug himself into a hole with latinos during the primary. he said some things that are coming back to haunt him. he now needs to find a way to dig himself out of that hole. i think the only way he will do it is if he really continues the intense activity outreach with latinos, speaks to latinos a directly as he can and as often as he can between now and november 6th. he has to regain trust. >> all right. >> we have to leave it there. anna, of course, we'll be watching this, and we'll bring you back tomorrow. he will be talking to all the sing single ladies as well as other folks tonight. good to see you both. >> gracias. >> gracias. first presidential debate tonight. watch it here on cnn starting at 7:00 eastern. >> dozens of whales beach themselves. we'll find out what's
he doesn't come from a border state like john mccain or george w. bush did. he has not done a great intense voter outreach with the latinos because he ran out of money after the primary. he -- let me just be absolutely truthful and give smu straight talk as john mccain would say. mitt romney dug himself into a hole with latinos during the primary. he said some things that are coming back to haunt him. he now needs to find a way to dig himself out of that hole. i think the only way he will do it...
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bill clinton and george h. w. bush. let's take a listen. [video clip] >> you been broad some one from russia. i honored mr. perot end uniform and every man and woman who's ever served, including admiral crowe, who is your joint chiefs and has supported me. but when joe mccarthy went abroad this country attacking people's patriotism, he was wrong. and a senator from connecticut stood up to him named prescott of bush. your father was right to stand up to joe mccarthy. you were wrong to attack my patriotism. i was opposed to the war, but i love my country. we need a president who will bring this country together, not divide it. >> i did not question the man's patriotism. i question his judgment and character. and what he did in moscow, that is fine. let him explain it. i accept that. what i do not accept is organizing demonstrations in a foreign hundred when your country's at war. i'm sorry, i cannot accept that. guest: that is an interesting example of a real disagreement. what bush thought was a strong political point to bring against clinto
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>> uh-huh. >> you can't blame the last four years on george w. bush, can you? >> we're absolutely not doing that. in fact, we're taking credit for the 5.1 million private sector jobs that have been created over the past four years despite being handed the worst economy since the great depression. we're taking credit for the million jobs that were protected under the president's efforts to save the auto industry, or increasing manufacturing jobs for the first time in decades. so absolutely, we're not blaming, you know, our predecessor, by any means. but we don't think we should return to the same policies that crashed the economy. >> exactly. stephanie cutter, by the way, good job competing with chuck todd sitting next to you. >> say hi to chuck todd yelling right next to me. >> i know, he's right next to me. >> good luck there. >> we appreciate it. so mark mckinnon, they do have a problem, actually, the buried remarks over the past four years, that's -- i mean, you heard stephanie saying, well, actually, we've created all these new jobs. that seems to go agains
>> uh-huh. >> you can't blame the last four years on george w. bush, can you? >> we're absolutely not doing that. in fact, we're taking credit for the 5.1 million private sector jobs that have been created over the past four years despite being handed the worst economy since the great depression. we're taking credit for the million jobs that were protected under the president's efforts to save the auto industry, or increasing manufacturing jobs for the first time in decades....
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that was one of the things that people remember most from george bush running against bill clinton. this was the first bush, not w. this really established him in that campaign as somebody who cared about her pain. he didn't say i feel your pain, but it was one of those moments. then here is, we played this earlier but have to play it again. it's not from a general election debate. this is from the republican primary that is one of the greatest mistakes. >> it's three agencies of government that are gone when i get there commerce, education -- and what's the third one there -- let's see commerce be education and the... >> e.p.a.? >> there you go. >> let's talk -- >> wait a minute. wait. wait. >> is e.p.a. what you were talking about? >> nos, we were talking about the -- agencies in government. e.p.a. needs to be rebuilt there's no doubt about that. >> you can't name the third one? >> the third agency of government, i would do away with education, the. >> come on, come on, you can do it. >> commerce, and let's see... i can't. the third one i can't. >> right there. slip of the tongue.
that was one of the things that people remember most from george bush running against bill clinton. this was the first bush, not w. this really established him in that campaign as somebody who cared about her pain. he didn't say i feel your pain, but it was one of those moments. then here is, we played this earlier but have to play it again. it's not from a general election debate. this is from the republican primary that is one of the greatest mistakes. >> it's three agencies of...
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george h. w. bush in '92. all of these guys who had been in the presidency, they got on that debate stage and came face- to-face with the challenger. it is rattling. they all had a very difficult time getting through the first debate. in each case, they had to up their game as the series went forward. >> you say, "the morning after the debate, will the media the talking about knockout punches? who knows? a little boldness might make good politics." what do you mean? >> i mean this idea of not approaching this debate as an awful obstacle you have to get over but taking advantage of that opportunity. even for the guys like romney and obama who are used to being on television and addressing huge audiences, these are some of the largest audiences they will ever face in their entire political careers. it is a shame to not take advantage of that. i understand why they are reluctant to do anything to dramatic or too theatrical. on the other hand, it is a platform that could be taken advantage of if they so choose. i
george h. w. bush in '92. all of these guys who had been in the presidency, they got on that debate stage and came face- to-face with the challenger. it is rattling. they all had a very difficult time getting through the first debate. in each case, they had to up their game as the series went forward. >> you say, "the morning after the debate, will the media the talking about knockout punches? who knows? a little boldness might make good politics." what do you mean? >> i...
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what president george w. bush did when he was governor of texas is said i want to reduce taxes across the board and i want to make sure we have a balanced budget. he wasn't very specific during the campaign, and when he became president, he released a series of principles that went to capitol hill that said these are the measures that meet my -- >> here is the problem with that though, ron. people who have assessed his mathematics have deemed them to be completely impossible. michael, this is just in from mitt romney on how he'll pay for his massive 20% across the board tax cut. take a listen. >> everybody is going to get up to a $17,000 deduction and you can use your charitable deduction or your home mortgage deduction or others, health care deduction, and you can full that $17,000 bucket and higher income people might have a lower number. or you could do it by the same method that boll/simpson did by limiting deductions. >> it's bucket and spades and he'll work it out with congress. is that a plausible resp
what president george w. bush did when he was governor of texas is said i want to reduce taxes across the board and i want to make sure we have a balanced budget. he wasn't very specific during the campaign, and when he became president, he released a series of principles that went to capitol hill that said these are the measures that meet my -- >> here is the problem with that though, ron. people who have assessed his mathematics have deemed them to be completely impossible. michael,...
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w. i think you also sort of heard mitt romney downplay some of the talk that has been going on since the new york times reported over the weekend that, you know, mitt romney is preparing all the zingers for the debate and you heard people saying maybe he's not preparing zingers. a lot of this is the head fake to the head fake to the head fake. of course, mitt romney and the president are both probably working on lines of attack that they'll deliver at this debate. that is sort of standard operating procedure. you saw that scott brown, elizabeth warren debate last night in massachusetts. this is what campaigns do. this is what candidates do. but i will tell you that mitt romney has been behind closed doors for much of the day today, in debate preparations, brooke, with the sparring partner, ohio senator rob portman. and perhaps the day's most notable development in the day with not very many development is that they just stopped for lunch at chipotle. they put a wrap if you don't mind the
w. i think you also sort of heard mitt romney downplay some of the talk that has been going on since the new york times reported over the weekend that, you know, mitt romney is preparing all the zingers for the debate and you heard people saying maybe he's not preparing zingers. a lot of this is the head fake to the head fake to the head fake. of course, mitt romney and the president are both probably working on lines of attack that they'll deliver at this debate. that is sort of standard...
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that was not as good as george w. bush in 2004 he had 44% of latino vote. romney need at least a quarter to a third of latino vote toeshs competitive in states like colorado where the debate is and that kind of thing. real quickly because i want to get to donna on this issue. what does he need to do to appeal to latino voters? >> i think latino voters need to know more about mitt romney. they know very little. precious little about him. the little they do know they don't like. he has begun to change his tone. ep needs to continue doing latino outreach and doing events, doing interviews, doing media, pouring money and resources into paid media and to outreach efforts. >> donna to that point, romney has actually moved closer to president obama on immigration issues just very recently saying he's not is going to rerocky the visas, deport young illegal immigrants under the new law here. does that present a problem to the president if he moves close center >> look we know mitt romney has a pension for etch-a-sketch. he likes to erase his previous statements and
that was not as good as george w. bush in 2004 he had 44% of latino vote. romney need at least a quarter to a third of latino vote toeshs competitive in states like colorado where the debate is and that kind of thing. real quickly because i want to get to donna on this issue. what does he need to do to appeal to latino voters? >> i think latino voters need to know more about mitt romney. they know very little. precious little about him. the little they do know they don't like. he has...
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[laughter] now he works with president george w. bush as well. at that time i was interviewing president bush is when i was doing a series of pieces on the president and the constitution and the same set of interviews i interviewed president ford and its the last time i saw hampshire and he said you know, i want to see what's going on in washington after his years in the house of representatives. when i was gonna norti lever of the house and you're father, my father was the majority leader of the house he said when we were a minority and majority leader they go down to feed press club or something and solomon say willie going to argue about clarke's piece said there's a legitimate d date. we genuinely disagree about the means to an end. and it was partisan. for heaven's sake we were the leaders of the party but then we get back and our best friends and go back to the hill and are able to be civil with each other, have a drink together and be very good friends. they were such good friends they asked me to speak at the funeral which was scary excep
[laughter] now he works with president george w. bush as well. at that time i was interviewing president bush is when i was doing a series of pieces on the president and the constitution and the same set of interviews i interviewed president ford and its the last time i saw hampshire and he said you know, i want to see what's going on in washington after his years in the house of representatives. when i was gonna norti lever of the house and you're father, my father was the majority leader of...
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in addition to coaching governor romney, he's worked with john mccain and president george w. bush. nice to have you on the program. >> good to be with you. jenna: for some of our viewers, how does one become an expert debate coach? did you start out on the debate team in high school? how did you become a coach? >> well, you know, i was in the right place at the right time. i didn't debate until i got to college, and then i decided to make debate a career. i coached for 18 years at liberty university and happened to meet karl rove. i knew that they had, that john kerry was using bob shrum as their debate coach and said to karl rove, you need a debate coach for the president, and he hired me. and that was my first job in politics, was coaching president bush. jenna: fascinating, karl rove surfaces again somewhere out there. >> with the mastermind of all. [laughter] jenna: you know, i didn't ever participate in the debate team. one of the things i did was play sports, and you watch game tape, right? you watch a lot of film. we just showed film of reagan and carter, and i'm curious, do
in addition to coaching governor romney, he's worked with john mccain and president george w. bush. nice to have you on the program. >> good to be with you. jenna: for some of our viewers, how does one become an expert debate coach? did you start out on the debate team in high school? how did you become a coach? >> well, you know, i was in the right place at the right time. i didn't debate until i got to college, and then i decided to make debate a career. i coached for 18 years at...
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gregg: santita jackson joins us and brad blakeman joins us, former deputy assistant to george w. bush. santita let me start with you. americans are very unhappy with the economy, the president says he's unhappy too. is his challenge to explain how the next four years would be any different? and if you look at his convention speech i'm not sure there is any difference. >> you know i think that his great challenge is the same challenge that governor romney faces tomorrow night, which is to be relaysable an rerelatable and likable. likability really does matter. gregg: you don't think people really want specifics, tell me mr. president how the next four years is any different. >> you know, gregg you have to balance style with substance. the fact is they'll have to run against their narrative in a time of great economic want. you've got a very, very wealthy man who is running. i'm not saying he can't relate to the poor but governor romney is going to have to do that. president obama is someone who is prove sore kwral and known for his excellence. gregg: insanity is doing the same thi
gregg: santita jackson joins us and brad blakeman joins us, former deputy assistant to george w. bush. santita let me start with you. americans are very unhappy with the economy, the president says he's unhappy too. is his challenge to explain how the next four years would be any different? and if you look at his convention speech i'm not sure there is any difference. >> you know i think that his great challenge is the same challenge that governor romney faces tomorrow night, which is to...